I think fishnets are fine if you have a great pair of legs. Which I don't.
And if you're old enough to drive.
I do however have an issue with the objectification of women and the sexualization of little girls. Whether or not it's men, boys, women or girls who are party to it.
I also happen to understand very well that these kinds of issues affect our boys as well as our girls.
And if I hear my 11-year-old daughter sing the lyrics to "Fergalicious" one more time I'm going to scream!
F to the E R G the I the E. Sorry CW, just had to do it.
Bratz have not been or will never be in my home. I have been really lucky that my 11 year old has not been impressed with any of this. She (so far) enjoys being modest, and thinks Paris, Linsday and and Britney are disgusting.
When my daughter came to us at age 7, she was bulimic. She also charged boys 25 cents on the playground - for a quick flash open of her shirt. (And she could pole dance like nobody's business, but hey, it's all a matter of exposure.)
I remember how sad I felt when she and our 5 year old foster daughter were playing Barbies. The 5 year old said, I'm going to pretend I'm making cookies waiting for my kids to get home from school and my husband to get home from work. Our 7 year old piped up and said, "I'm going to pretend I dropped out of school, am pregnant and don't know who the father is."
This was all pre-the-day of Bratz dolls, Fergie, Paris and Britney. My point? I'm not really sure other than to say the exposure was there nonetheless for my daughter. I agree that kids in general are being sexualized earlier and earlier. It is in your face everywhere you turn.
Makes me glad the rest of mine are boys. And in total tasteless humor . . . As a mother of a son, I only have to worry about one penis compared to the mother of a daughter, who has to worry about ALL of them.
Its a shame that there are such terrible role models for girls. I'm a little scared about how things are going to be when i start having kids. It will probably be to the point where TV is just not acceptable to watch! not like it really is right now though.
I was asked to take 15-20 minutes in our women's auxiliary meeting tomorrow at church to discuss how to protect our children from evil. (I negotiated it down to 10 I think.) When I saw this in the paper this morning I thought it would be interesting to hear from you.
It also seemed to be a natural follow-up to my previous post.
I don't have daughters, but I have son(s.) I wonder how I'm supposed to teach them about respecting and honoring women when everything they are fed says "Treat me the opposite!"
I seriously want to know, WHO ARE THESE GIRL'S MOTHERS?
And just WHO is paying for these teenagers' liposuction, botox, nose jobs, etc.?
I may get boo-ed for this, but I don't think fishnets are inherently evil. I wore a pair to church last week (albeit with a smart skirt and a pair of boots). But then, I'm a rebel.
It's all about knowing what's appropriate. I wouldn't let my nine-year-old wear my black fishnets any more than I'd allow her to put on my IPEX bra. I worry about my girls all the time, but they're pretty smart kids. The one I really have to watch is the youngest, who is so into makeup and wanting to be older, that I'm constantly reigning her in. She accuses me of not loving her as much as I love her sisters, because I let them have more grown-up clothes and shoes. *sigh*
azucar: that's EXACTLY the question I asked out loud EVERY time I drove the all-boy carpool to Dixon a few years ago. Seriously. It's not perfect, but PHS seems a bit better now from what I've seen. Either that or I don't spend enough time there now that the boys just drive themselves.
daredevil: and you looked great! But don't get me started on the "you love them more than me" that is the WORST!
We started homeschooling when my then 8 year old daughter was groped on the bus by an 11 year old boy and told that she had "nice boobies." The Principal did nothing so I had to contact and fight the district administration to punish the little cretin who had a long sordid history of bad behaviors.
Our house is a Barbie-Bratz free sanctuary where one may walk freely without stepping on plastic spiky doll high heels or seeing their child play with little prostitute action figures.
I don't like them, either, and I'm scared about raising kids PERIOD right now. It really concerns me re: sexualization earlier and earlier. We have enough of a problem with pornography, etc. for GROWN males, let alone innocent kids who could become addicted to filth like that without even looking for it. That may be a separate issue, but if we're talking about sexualization as a culture, I have a REALLY hard time with this. It is, like has been said on here, in your face. Everywhere. What do all of you with school-age children do to address these issues?
Talk. Talk. Talk. I mean together, which means listen, listen, listen, too. I've decided protecting them from it isn't sufficient--it will come after them. We can try to protect them from it while they're too little to know how to deal. But the most important thing we can do is help give them the tools they'll need to deal with it when it gets in their faces and we're not there.
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It's really, really sad! Glad I don't have a girl.
Bratz are not allowed at my house.
Fishnets are skank on adults let alone babies.
I think fishnets are fine if you have a great pair of legs. Which I don't.
And if you're old enough to drive.
I do however have an issue with the objectification of women and the sexualization of little girls. Whether or not it's men, boys, women or girls who are party to it.
I also happen to understand very well that these kinds of issues affect our boys as well as our girls.
And if I hear my 11-year-old daughter sing the lyrics to "Fergalicious" one more time I'm going to scream!
F to the E R G the I the E.
Sorry CW, just had to do it.
Bratz have not been or will never be in my home. I have been really lucky that my 11 year old has not been impressed with any of this. She (so far) enjoys being modest, and thinks Paris, Linsday and and Britney are disgusting.
I just hope she stays that way.
When my daughter came to us at age 7, she was bulimic. She also charged boys 25 cents on the playground - for a quick flash open of her shirt. (And she could pole dance like nobody's business, but hey, it's all a matter of exposure.)
I remember how sad I felt when she and our 5 year old foster daughter were playing Barbies. The 5 year old said, I'm going to pretend I'm making cookies waiting for my kids to get home from school and my husband to get home from work. Our 7 year old piped up and said, "I'm going to pretend I dropped out of school, am pregnant and don't know who the father is."
This was all pre-the-day of Bratz dolls, Fergie, Paris and Britney. My point? I'm not really sure other than to say the exposure was there nonetheless for my daughter. I agree that kids in general are being sexualized earlier and earlier. It is in your face everywhere you turn.
Makes me glad the rest of mine are boys. And in total tasteless humor . . . As a mother of a son, I only have to worry about one penis compared to the mother of a daughter, who has to worry about ALL of them.
I think fishermen should leave their kids at home. It's a dangerous business.
Its a shame that there are such terrible role models for girls. I'm a little scared about how things are going to be when i start having kids. It will probably be to the point where TV is just not acceptable to watch! not like it really is right now though.
As the mother of a 1-1/2 year old, I am scared to death!!!!!!!
I don't allow Bratz in my house either. The 2 times that my 6 yr old recieved them as gifts, they magically disappeared.
How did you come to want to ask this question?
Barbie's slutty cousin is not allowed here, either, and my girls know it, and they know why.
Some of my thoughts on this are not my own.
I was asked to take 15-20 minutes in our women's auxiliary meeting tomorrow at church to discuss how to protect our children from evil. (I negotiated it down to 10 I think.) When I saw this in the paper this morning I thought it would be interesting to hear from you.
It also seemed to be a natural follow-up to my previous post.
I guess the subject matter also tied in with this post.
I don't have daughters, but I have son(s.) I wonder how I'm supposed to teach them about respecting and honoring women when everything they are fed says "Treat me the opposite!"
I seriously want to know, WHO ARE THESE GIRL'S MOTHERS?
And just WHO is paying for these teenagers' liposuction, botox, nose jobs, etc.?
I may get boo-ed for this, but I don't think fishnets are inherently evil. I wore a pair to church last week (albeit with a smart skirt and a pair of boots). But then, I'm a rebel.
It's all about knowing what's appropriate. I wouldn't let my nine-year-old wear my black fishnets any more than I'd allow her to put on my IPEX bra. I worry about my girls all the time, but they're pretty smart kids. The one I really have to watch is the youngest, who is so into makeup and wanting to be older, that I'm constantly reigning her in. She accuses me of not loving her as much as I love her sisters, because I let them have more grown-up clothes and shoes. *sigh*
azucar: that's EXACTLY the question I asked out loud EVERY time I drove the all-boy carpool to Dixon a few years ago. Seriously. It's not perfect, but PHS seems a bit better now from what I've seen. Either that or I don't spend enough time there now that the boys just drive themselves.
daredevil: and you looked great! But don't get me started on the "you love them more than me" that is the WORST!
It is a fine line we walk isn't it. I am not sure which I am more worried about...raising my boy or my girl...
R
We started homeschooling when my then 8 year old daughter was groped on the bus by an 11 year old boy and told that she had "nice boobies." The Principal did nothing so I had to contact and fight the district administration to punish the little cretin who had a long sordid history of bad behaviors.
Our house is a Barbie-Bratz free sanctuary where one may walk freely without stepping on plastic spiky doll high heels or seeing their child play with little prostitute action figures.
Very good to talk about.
My two cents: I worked for several years on an inpatient eating disorder unit... As with most stories, there's a whole lot more to this than Bratz.
Early sexualization is a core issue, but the dolls (or their fishnets) aren't the ones who create it.
I don't like them, either, and I'm scared about raising kids PERIOD right now. It really concerns me re: sexualization earlier and earlier. We have enough of a problem with pornography, etc. for GROWN males, let alone innocent kids who could become addicted to filth like that without even looking for it. That may be a separate issue, but if we're talking about sexualization as a culture, I have a REALLY hard time with this. It is, like has been said on here, in your face. Everywhere. What do all of you with school-age children do to address these issues?
Talk. Talk. Talk. I mean together, which means listen, listen, listen, too. I've decided protecting them from it isn't sufficient--it will come after them. We can try to protect them from it while they're too little to know how to deal. But the most important thing we can do is help give them the tools they'll need to deal with it when it gets in their faces and we're not there.
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